Author Topic: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
Master_Ikari  85 posts
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Date Posted: 6/10 8:45am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread - Date Edited: 6/10 8:49am (1 edits total) Edited By: Master_Ikari
T-boy-wan posted:
Well, there was a massive scandal with Outcast spoilers, but I think it may be Ok this time as Omen is less than 2 weeks away, but then I'm not too sure on the rules either. Keep up the tidbits though!


That was actually one of the major reasons why I'm hesitate on giving out any detailed accounts over PMs. I normally lurk around here, rarely logging in and even more so posting. I recall some of the hoopla over Outcast and I don't want to inadvertently cause the same.

Thus my reason for being cautious. Extremely cautious.

Also real fast: Even though I was joking around with the responses as to how I got the book, I honestly cannot say. That isn't for any idiotic reasons. I'm not deliberately being a tease, so don't get me wrong.

I'll try to share more in a bit. I need to get back to it.

master-of-les-pauls posted:
Might be best to ask the mods how many spoilers you can post, all I'm going to ask is the book any good so far?


That... isn't a bad idea. Stupid old me for not doing that prior. doh!

I'll do that right now. Thanks!

As for your question: Again, not too far but I'm liking it.

 

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master-of-les-pauls  6079 posts
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Date Posted: 6/10 9:07am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
Master_Ikari posted:

That... isn't a bad idea. Stupid old me for not doing that prior. doh!

I'll do that right now. Thanks!

As for your question: Again, not too far but I'm liking it.



Yeah if only I'd thought of that when I posted the spoilers, I'm the person who posted them last time and that led to the big mess that happend

 

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Master_Ikari  85 posts
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Date Posted: 6/10 9:19am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
master-of-les-pauls posted:
Master_Ikari posted:

That... isn't a bad idea. Stupid old me for not doing that prior. doh!

I'll do that right now. Thanks!

As for your question: Again, not too far but I'm liking it.



Yeah if only I'd thought of that when I posted the spoilers, I'm the person who posted them last time and that led to the big mess that happend


Ah. Well, hopefully this time there won't be a repeat of the same situation. I've messaged Rogue_Follower and hopefully I'll get a response back soon. Until then I'll hold off posting anything else. As for where I'm currently at: Chapter Six.

 

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master-of-les-pauls  6079 posts
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Date Posted: 6/10 9:26am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
Master_Ikari posted:
master-of-les-pauls posted:
Master_Ikari posted:

That... isn't a bad idea. Stupid old me for not doing that prior. doh!

I'll do that right now. Thanks!

As for your question: Again, not too far but I'm liking it.



Yeah if only I'd thought of that when I posted the spoilers, I'm the person who posted them last time and that led to the big mess that happend


Ah. Well, hopefully this time there won't be a repeat of the same situation. I've messaged Rogue_Follower and hopefully I'll get a response back soon. Until then I'll hold off posting anything else. As for where I'm currently at: Chapter Six.


Yeah, I had no idea that I would cause THAT much trouble, hope they give you the allclear. I'm a huge spoiler junkie tongue

 

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Date Posted: 6/10 9:50am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
Omen thread is up!

You may discuss spoilers in there.

 

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Manisphere  2934 posts
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Date Posted: 6/13 2:31pm Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread - Date Edited: 6/13 2:35pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Manisphere
Not sure if this has been posted anywhere. A new Abyss description is up on Random House's site.



Following a trail of clues across the galaxy, Luke Skywalker continues his quest to find the reasons behind Jacen Solo’s dark downfall and to win redemption for the Jedi Order. Sojourning among the mysterious Aing-Tii monks has left Luke and his son Ben with no real answers, only the suspicion that the revelations they seek lie in the forbidden reaches of the distant Maw Cluster. There, hidden from the galaxy in a labyrinth of black holes, dwell the Mind Walkers: those whose power to transcend their bodies and be one with the Force is as seductive and intoxicating as it is potentially fatal. But it may be Luke’s only path to the truth.

Meanwhile, on Coruscant, the war of wills between Galactic Alliance Chief of State Natasi Daala and the Jedi Order is escalating. Outraged over the carbonite freezing of young Jedi Knights Valin and Jysella Horn after their inexplicable mental breakdowns, the Jedi are determined to defy Daala’s martial tactics, override Council Master Kenth Hamner’s wavering leadership, and deal on their own terms with the epidemic of madness preying on their ranks. As Han and Leia Solo, along with their daughter Jaina, join the fight to protect more stricken Knights from arrest, Jedi healers race to find a cure for the rapidly spreading affliction. But none of them realize the blaster barrel is already swinging in their direction–and Chief Daala is about to pull the trigger.

Nor do Luke and Ben, deep in the Maw Cluster and pushing their Force abilities beyond known limits, realize how close they are–to the Sith strike squad bent on exterminating the Skywalkers, to a nexus of dark-side energy unprecedented in its power and its hunger, and to an explosive confrontation between opposing wielders of the Force from which only one Master–good or evil–can emerge alive.


ETA: doh! I see Darth-Ghost already posted it on the Omen thread.

 

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Zorrixor  4375 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 12:45am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread - Date Edited: 6/14 12:49am (2 edits total) Edited By: Zorrixor
That actually sounds pretty cool...and my suspicion of there being something akin to derriphans just went up another notch. thinking

I'm curious about the nexus of dark side hunger... that is very intriguing (the mask of Nihilus lives?! silly tongue ). Not sure what to think of the big battle of light and dark masters... obviously that means Luke fighting someone, but are we meant to be worried about him not making it out alive? tongue

If it wasn't for, IIRC, Sue Rostoni saying there are vague plans for a post-FOTJ trilogy I wouldn't actually be too surprised if in the Legacy-setting-up phase they're going through they did give Luke a final, glorious showdown... but Rostoni basically has quashed that speculation. tired

I wouldn't mind him discovering a disembodied Mind Walker spirit form of Cronal or something, as it'd be nice if instead of giving Cronal a generic "he body hopped" survival he became one of these freaky dark side wraith thingies. I also don't put it past them extrapolating Krayt's "should I or not?" musings to give him a duel with Luke, just with Luke assuming it was one of these Lost Tribe people not another group--and we do have Dician in this, do we not? thinking Maybe Krayt decides to stoke the fire to provoke the Jedi into annihilating this rival Sith cult for the One Sith. tongue

 

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Darth-Ghost  5768 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 1:07am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
Zorrixor posted:


If it wasn't for, IIRC, Sue Rostoni saying there are vague plans for a post-FOTJ trilogy I wouldn't actually be too surprised if in the Legacy-setting-up phase they're going through they did give Luke a final, glorious showdown... but Rostoni basically has quashed that speculation. tired



Where was this? I didn't hear about a post-FOTJ trilogy yet.

 

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Zorrixor  4375 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 1:10am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
I seem to recall someone mentioning her saying that she'd like to do "another Big 3 story" or something after FOTJ. It could be I'm remembering something she said back during LOTF and that she actually was referring to FOTJ... but I'm sure it was a more recent comment than that.

 

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Date Posted: 6/14 9:33am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
Zorrixor posted:
I love how Ship is like the Sith version of R2-D2. tongue


That is exactly right.

Ship love

 

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Darth-Ghost  5768 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 10:57am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
Zorrixor posted:
I seem to recall someone mentioning her saying that she'd like to do "another Big 3 story" or something after FOTJ. It could be I'm remembering something she said back during LOTF and that she actually was referring to FOTJ... but I'm sure it was a more recent comment than that.


That was Matt Stover, long before LOTF and Shadows of Mindor even came out.

 

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Zorrixor  4375 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 11:31am Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
Ah, maybe I'm just remembering someone saying something they remembered Matt saying then. tongue

Anyway, as for these Mind Walkers. I wonder whether Jacen went there and learnt from them as well? If so, I'm not sure what outcome I'd prefer. On one hand, there is the "He was possessed by a Mind Walker which made him crazy" answer; but meh. I can see how that could factor into FOTJ if Luke then comes home to Coruscant in Backlash and reveals that Jacen was driven mad by these same Force parasites that are now driving the other Jedi mad...

But on the other hand, I wouldn't mind finding out that Jacen had studied this same Mind Walker technique, thus learning how to achieve a sort of "dark side ghosting", so to speak. Thus, Caedus is the parasite and once all the carbonited Jedi are stuck in the same room the incorporeal spirit of the Dark Lord can be resurrected. tongue

I can't say I'm going to get my hopes up for any additional Caedus evilness, what with how the plan seems to be to at least partially absolve Jacen for his crimes. Something to do with Mind Walkers possessing everyone, or a bunch having piggybacked back with Jacen won't surprise me.

That said, the cover blurb suggests to me more that these Mind Walkers and the Maw entity are actually two separate things. I also could quite easily see the Mind Walkers being the Celestials, what with how they kind of remind me of the "Star Gods". If that is the case, then I wonder how the two are related? At least, one assumes two creatures living in the Maw will know of each other. thinking

Rogue Mind Walker Devil? tongue

 

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Jango_Fettish  1029 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 12:03pm Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
"There, hidden from the galaxy in a labyrinth of black holes, dwell the Mind Walkers: those whose power to transcend their bodies and be one with the Force is as seductive and intoxicating as it is potentially fatal. But it may be Luke’s only path to the truth."

I wonder if this is how they can make Luke a force ghost, Legacy style, without ever actually killing him. He just willingly turns into a spirit. thinking

 

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Zorrixor  4375 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 12:11pm Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread - Date Edited: 6/14 12:15pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Zorrixor
I wondered that when I first read it too, especially considering it also talks about a duel between master of light and master of dark, in which there can only be one survivor. It would be a bold thing to have him do an Obi-Wan and willingly become one to avoid whatever the alternative fate was... be consumed by the Maw threat and driven mad as well, perhaps. It could actually make for a moving scene if Luke allowed himself to die rather than ever allow himself to be turned into the strongest of this entity's corrupted minions.

I'm probably echoing my pre-FOTJ suggestion of him sacrificing his life to seal some kind of heart of the dark side too much though.


Still, it actually could achieve what you suggest: an easy way to both "kill" him and "keep him around" until such time as they finally decide to have him fade away. Which could then potentially last forever, because he wouldn't have actually ever been "killed" (as happened to both Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, and I suppose even Yoda through natural causes) but instead have willingly chosen to go the incorporeal path.

Force ghosting without actually Force ghosting, I suppose.

Though, admittedly, it sounds more like a dark side ability to cling to life than something I necessarily see Luke doing. More "avoiding death" than "surrendering to it".

I have to say though, if ever there was a better opportunity for Anakin Skywalker to appear to Luke again to tell him that you cannot prevent death, this would be it. happy

 

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DarthIktomi  1380 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 1:17pm Subject: Fate of the Jedi (9 Hardcover Series) General Discussion Thread
CeiranHarmony:
YJK offers Luke flirting with Tenel Ka while he poses as her LoveSlave on Dathomir
Luke holding hands with Tionne is minor compared to THAT


True. But Mara gets revenge, with Anakin posing as her love slave.

but if there is an open relationship... hehe Mara's escapades would make sense, too: She had Kyle Katarn, Lando (denying it later), and others...

Hearing the name "Kyle Katarn" qualifies as instant loss of virginity.

(Hmm…Gotta work that into the Church of Kyle.)

I wonder how Farmboy would react to knowing that only marriage was forbidden, not its usual trappings, if you know what I mean…

BTW, I made a joke about Saxton's notes on Luke's "heroic chastity" once. But it gets pretty ad hominem, so I won't post it here. Basically it's my comment on people who obsess over the technical aspects of applied phlebotinum.

Huttese Pornography... that shellshocked me... but today it seems minor compared to what other hints we get these days. LOTF is full of Tenel Ka hints... her bed the size she could sleep in there with her 10 closest friends f.e. or Luke asking her if she takes her bodyguards with her when she goes peeing behind a bush in the jungle... well why is it always Luke pointing that out? weird weird, despite he could have been her father or still could be... there was her mother flirting him in Courtship

If by "flirt" you mean "rape", yes. I don't think many of the authors have read the EU to the extent most people here have.

Of course, Wolverton's Wolverton. Nearly every hint of sex was squick. And not even fantastic squick, just plain old boring stuff like rape and incest.

well huttese pornography and the solo family... no comment. I know.. I know..

Suddenly, my friend's theory that Aayla Secura was a sex slave makes a lot more sense.

ps: you don´t frequent another fanboard where this discussion material is much more common than here, do you?

No, but it's really something you see more in the Trek fandom.

Jango_Fettish:
I wonder if this is how they can make Luke a force ghost, Legacy style, without ever actually killing him. He just willingly turns into a spirit.

I figured Legacy didn't permanently kill him. He still has to look worse than Master Yoda. Granted, they'll probably just retcon that 900 years in the future, he was so in tune with the Force that he stopped aging around 30.

Zorrixor:
No, it's canon that any darkside attempt at immortality will be an epic phail. They can feed off the Force of others, possess bodies, time travel, and do all sorts of other k3wl stuff that makes them seem immortal in the short term, but eventually they will be consumed by their power. The Jedi, however, accept their mortality, and, through their compassion, conquer it.

Granted, both the Jedi and the Sith use holocrons, and holocrons always keep souls, so you never really know. And Obi-Wan possessed Luke in SOTME to protect him. So it seems more like the dark side is easier but ultimately weaker.

 

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